Are You a Chump In Other Parts of Your Life?
Are you a chump in other areas of your life, now or in the past? Did experiencing infidelity make you shore up your boundaries elsewhere?
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You may have noticed this site had some technical difficulties recently.
That’s because I had a Leave an IT Service Provider, Gain a Life situation.
Last week the server crashed (the providers’ fault) and my SOS didn’t get a reply for over an hour by which point, the morning’s column was toast. When the provider finally replied, they said they’d been updating some software and it corrupted my database. Oops!
Oh, and the last back up was 12 hours ago. So, 12 hours of comments and column, poof! Oops again!
Then they told me it was fixed. (Narrator: It was not fixed.)
Another column — poof.
I began to look into this “premium” package I was paying for… only to discover they were double billing me.
You can see where this is headed.
I had to leave this mofo.
Are you a chump, Tracy? Are you going to try to reconcile with this unreliable provider who is over billing and underperforming? Try harder to win his ambivalent mediocrity?
A younger Tracy might have. He said it was my fault for double billing myself. (It was not, I kept the email receipts. His accounts department admitted it was their error.) Then, he did not apologize, but gave me a partial refund and! a credit to keep hosting with him!
But! But! My sunk costs!
There was a fork in the decision tree — keep hosting with this jerk who crashed my site in whom I had zero trust and try to recoup the rest of my money. Or leave and take the loss.
I left and took my business elsewhere.
Life is better on the Other Side.
It was scary. I’m mad about the money. But my new IT boyfriend is much better. He’s cheaper, he’s faster. His customer service rocks.
Breaking up with my old provider was an absolute f*cking nightmare. I spent three hours yesterday talking to a phantom guy in a tech support chat bubble trying to migrate the server. As they said terrifying things like “clear your DNS cache”. I AM A LIBERAL ARTS MAJOR. I have NO IDEA what that means!
It reminded me of that time I rented a moving truck to leave the cheater. I don’t know how to drive a moving truck. All I know is I needed to get all my sh*t out of there as fast as I could.
A lot of white-knuckling later, here we are. On solid ground.
I bet you’ve done something like this too. Chucked your old chumpy ways, asserted yourself when you were being treated unfairly and Did The Hard Things.
Tell CN about it. Did you dump a Switzerland friend? A bad car mechanic? Dispute a charge? How are your boundaries doing?
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Hell yeah Tracy! As chumps we know that demanding respectful treatment often demands of us discomfort, effort, money and sacrifice. But each time we hold our boundaries we reinforce the fact that we will not be walked all over. We can do hard things. We are mighty.
Ps. Iโm a software developer and previous CTO, happy to volunteer my knowledge and time whenever to help chump nation.
My FW got the shock of his life when I stopped sorting out his messes! I’m not a weak person but it was often easier to sort it out for him than to deal with the inevitable (and mainly financial) consequences. He always used the excuse that “you speak better French than I do”, but he had the possibility of free French lessons, during work time for over 25 years but I guess that was too much like hard work. So the time I told him to ask his drinking buddies to go to the police station after his latest DUI, or sort out his US taxes on his own, or maybe get a loan in your own name for your latest car crash he must have thought the bottom had fallen out of his world. That being said, I still very much believe that the narc keeping you constantly spinning plates because of their “accidental” oopsies is very much part of the plan too. I mean, if you’re living on very little sleep, trying to keep up your full-time job and look after two little children, who wouldn’t expect their wife to drive him around for 18 month periods every time he lost his licence?
I mean, I would rather have the worldview of a chump than a Fuggwit. It seems like a better way to go through life. I do think about the way I relied on the FW to interpret and translate and run interference with dishonest, ignorant people in our path. He was better at it! He spoke their language. It was easy for him to spot them. So yeah, I was sort of avoidant and reliant in that way, that I just didn’t want to deal. Now I have to make an effort to spot them and protect myself. Basically, I watch out for people with his qualities. That’s a good rule of thumb.
Hey, I just thought of something nice to say about my ex! He was v good at being an a$$h0le back!
I recently blocked a classmate (Class of 1974!) who was private messaging me out of the blue. The content was fine, but when our respective marital status was confirmed, I said my goodbyes. He didn’t take the hint initially and I found myself trying to justify my decision without hurting HIS feelings.
His last message was a recording of Melanie’s “I have a brand new pair of roller skates, you have a brand new key”. Curious what senior chumps make of his song choice.
My ex ran off to another state and stayed there when we separated for the last time. We haven’t heard from him in years, fine by me. But yes, the rest of life.
My remote job has difficult aspects, but I learned to stay under the radar and accept the realities. The organization is in legal and financial trouble. Some of my coworkers feel obligated to complain. Well, I did that for over a decade, and it’s worse in many ways. I let go. Admin leaves me alone 98% of the time, and I just do my thing with gusto. If it crumbles, I will retire. Nice to be in that position.
Last year, I left my long-term church, the church where my ex used to preach. It was a small group, and I was the only divorced person. They did help a lot in the transition, but it became clear to me that the leading elder viewed me as broken and inept because of my divorce. And divorce had become something to rant about from the pulpit while I sat there steaming. My post-divorce close friends were elsewhere, so I went elsewhere. I’m going to my neighborhood group with the new church tonight.
Life is good when you draw boundaries!
Glad you have a new provider for the site! And my ex FW frequently told me I was rude, yes that word, too people when I refused to engage inappropriately or be a chump. He had zero boundaries. I had, and still have strong boundaries. He would avoid all conflict and confrontation. Whatever a woman asked for or seemed to want, he was thete. No complaints, even if it meant losing sleep, getting a 100 dollar parking ticket or exposing himself to an STI. I was chumped by him, but somehow not by the rest of the world. I never let an over charge go by. Recently, an adult child, l8ving in another state, called me and said they got a surprise bill of 600 or sobucks from their health insurance company. What did she do? Pay up? Of course not. My kid talked to the HR and benefits manager, called the insurance company, and….guess what? It was a mistake. No need to pay. We do not need to be a chump ever again, and can teach our kids that lesson. Way to go, CL!!
Fifty years ago my therapist told me that I have “problems with boundaries”–and she didn’t mean I trampled others’ boundaries–a product of my FOO, in which I was cast as the “service provider,” notably in managing my mentally ill father’s moods. My mother used me to calm him; he used me, including sexually, to calm himself. No wonder I ended up with the husband I did, master of the sad sausage tactic, and although at the time I thought he was nothing like my father, it turned out he was merely a covert, rather than an overt, narcissist.
Learning to stand up for myself and establish boundaries and defend them took me decades. When after 32 years of marriage my now-ex revealed his secret sexual basement and what went on there and with whom, I at first said “I’m leaving,” and then, after a sad sausage’s direct plea for “comfort,” I reneged on myself and not only stayed but did the horizontal pick-me dance. It took three years of screwing up my courage, examining and testing out my options, years in which I found both Chump Lady/Chump Nation and the posters on Straight Spouse Network, who all enlightened and supported me, before I told him I was divorcing him.
The divorce process was me, self-protectively asserting my boundaries. I hired a lawyer (he didn’t, just whined and fumed about “fairness” while expecting me to go along with his preferred division of marital assets), and I did all the paperwork. I told him I didn’t want him in the court room for the final hearing. True to his passive-aggressive, covert narc ways, he blustered and whined about ill treatment, but he caved and complied. I was more than fair, by the way–he emerged from the divorce with more than 50% of our marital assets, although I extracted what I considered a token amount from his retirement account just because I knew the court would support me–but throughout the process I had been gauging what I thought he would tolerate before deciding to hire a lawyer of his own, and I just wanted to get out of that marriage ASAP. I consider my assessment of what he’d tolerate without pushing him over the edge of hiring a lawyer of his own one of the better legacies of spending three decades managing his emotions. I also considered, and still do, the money I let go as the price of my freedom.
My ex and I were college profs in the same academic department at a small liberal arts college, and many of our friends were therefore colleagues. After the divorce I dropped some of these, who revealed themselves as Switzerland friends, and, with others, have established tight boundaries, in the form of no talk about my ex. I stopped going to a years-long established weekly pub meeting with ex-colleagues from our department, but during the pandemic established “Porchfest” at my home, a weekly gathering of the other retired women in the department (that’s still going, although it’s now twice-monthly). I’ve made a few new friends (fewer than I would like, fewer than I hope I will), and reciprocity and mutual respect are my touchstones in those relationships. Given my past patterns, I don’t see myself with a new partner. I also value my new life and self, both so very hard won, too much to risk either.
I’ve become what I think of as a lot less compromising and harder, a lot more self-protective. Maybe because my father was a geologist, and I think in metaphors, I see the process I’ve gone through as metamorphic. If there’s such a thing as a “spirit rock,” mine is gneiss (pronounced like “nice”). Gneiss is made from granite–itself an igneous rock– that’s been through immense pressure. It has yielded a similar kind of distinction between “nice” and “kind.” To me, “gneiss” is “kind.” “Nice” is old boundary-less, accommodating me. “Gneiss,” like “kind” comes from strength and density of character. And after all I’ve been through, I’m no longer “nice”–I’m “gneiss.”
I love this gneiss vs nice analogy!
I am much more particular about my friendships. I’m a very generous person, and I tend to think the best of people. I’m more cynical now.
I cut off every mutual friend that I had with FW. They were all his friends anyway (evident when they welcomed AP with open arms). I cut off every Switzerland friend.
Since FW died (5 years ago), I have had two people from that circle reach out, and I haven’t responded to either of them. One woman wanted my support because her father died (I lost my dad some years ago). Old me would have sent her something sympathetic. New me left her on read. Because I don’t want to be someone you only reach out to when you need something from them. That’s not a friend. That’s someone you’re using. This person hadn’t once asked me if I was okay during the affair/divorce, and befriended AP. So yeah, not interested in being her shoulder to cry on.
The other person (FW’s best friend in his youth) randomly texted “Thinking about you and wanted to check in.” This person hasn’t contacted me in three years (and I never replied to that text either). This felt fishy. Maybe he really did just randomly think of me and wonder how I was. Maybe he is still in contact with AP and wants information. Maybe he’s hitting on me. I don’t know. Again, this is another person who never checked on me during the affair/divorce, and who befriended AP (so he was not ignorant of the situation, even when *I* was). I also left him unanswered.
Old me would have been panicking and stressed about being perceived as “rude” for not returning messages, even to people I don’t like. New me is cool with it. If you aren’t the least bit concerned about me during the difficult times, if you collude in lies, if you’re fine with someone hurting me, you don’t get any access to me and you certainly don’t get my support when YOU are struggling. Friendships should be reciprocal.
I’ve made a new circle of friends who would never sit by and let someone pull the wool over my eyes. People who enjoy talking to me and spending time with me for my own sake, and not because they are trying to suck up to my husband for their own personal/professional gain (and I now have somewhat of an aversion to artists – FW was a writer/director and all our “friends” were actors/artists/musicians/techs, etc. – I found out the art/film community has some terribly sycophantic people who will do just about anything to get ahead – obviously if FW had a new squeeze, they would flatter her and ignore his wife because they wanted to stay on his good side in the hope he would include them in the next project).
I, too, focus heavily on who did or didn’t reach out to me during the worst of the separation/divorce time to decide who to continue investing in. It makes sense…if they don’t even check in to ask how you are but they’re in contact with the STBX, it’s 100% clear they’re not in your corner.
There was one couple who was initially the most painful friend loss for me whom I finally *asked* why they hadn’t checked in at all. They gave lame answers. Nope, thwy get no more of my time and heart. After that, when the husband – who used to be a trusted pastor/counselor of mine/ours – started texting in boundary-less, kind of creepy ways, I blocked him. Feels good!
I had a contractor show up at my house 1.5 hours later than he said he would. This was during the phase when I was still deciding to do business. I figured if he would do that at the beginning, he would feel free to be disrespectful of my time the whole job. He was shocked when I told him I would not be engaging his services because of this lateness. He was snippy and derogatory that I would make such a decision. It was a weird experience for me (early on in disengaging from my own FW) because I was simultaneously very proud of myself, relieved I had clearly dodged a bullet and, the weird part, I felt sort of bad for him. Confident, proud and unsure is a strange feeling combination and helped me to understand more objectively the difficult process of separating a life and family with a FW.
The heater in my Toyota Tacoma stopped working. I went to YouTube University and replaced the fuse and voila! I fixed it for the cost of a four dollar fuse! Whoohoo!
And thenโฆ.it stopped working again.
I took it down the street to the Toyota dealership where I had been a loyal customer for twelve years. They had my truck all day and then called to inform me that after replacing the blower motor for 1300.00, it still was not working, and that I needed to spend another 3300.00 to replace the blower box, and that they couldnโt have known this until they had replaced the blower motor.
Wait just a doggone minute. I need a second opinion hereโฆ
I paid the 1300.00 and took my truck to my beloved trusted Mercedes mechanic, who also happens to have a Tacoma.
He called me to tell me that the mechanic at Toyota had the blower motor WIRED IN BACKWARDS.
He then fixed it. It worked perfectly.
The service manager at Toyota did not initially want to honor my request for a refund for all the labor minus parts.
After some very polite and assertive conversations with the general manager of the dealership, I ended up with a check reimbursing me for what I paid my other mechanic AND all the labor costs I had paid Toyota.
And thereโs an awesome Japanese shop right next door to my Mercedes mechanic, who will be my new Toyota mechanic.
I never thought about how the experience of being chumped has benefitted me in other areas of my life until today!
THANK YOU TRACY!!!!
Way to go, VH!
If I win the lottery, you are getting a big slice, Tracy.
This site is literally life and sanity saving.
My gratitude is sincere, deep, and profound.
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๐๐๐ A standing ovation to our mighty Gain a Life leader for taking the hassle and cost hits for our Chump Nation team! We appreciate you SOOO much!
I am super glad you lost the loser IT boyfriend and found one who sounds much better. Who at least won’t behave just like a cheater: underperform, cause crashes, and double bill then shift the blame onto you.
As mentioned in my reply to ISawtheLight, I did block one former friend and cut off his wife, too. There are others in our former mutual circles that I also cut off. And as Joan Jett sang, “You’ve got nothing to lose when you lose fake friends.”
But I have grown less chumpy in my new circles, too. For one thing, I have stopped reaching out at all to my DivorceCare friend group because too many have proven to be fickle or not reciprocal. I will keep the 1 or 2 who are not that way as friends.
Then, when I got tired of *always* initiating hanging out with a new friend, I just stopped proposing meetups. It’s sad because we had so much laughter and fun and she was there at a couple of crucial times in my new life. But since she hasn’t bothered to text me once except to reply to my texts, I also no longer want one-sided friendships so am not continuing to pursue this one.